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Saw this link on a friend's blog and thought I'd forward it.

http://gretachristina.typepad.com/greta_christinas_weblog/2007/10/atheists-and-an.html

I think though that I feel like it's a little flawed to accept the label of 'angry' because it means that people who want to can immediately dismiss anything you say as being 'emotional'. I don't generally feel angry. Sometimes I'm rather annoyed and every once in a while I do get angry with religious groups but on the whole I'm pretty happy with myself.

I'd contend really that it's religious people who are hateful towards atheists and other religions who have the emotional investment. They feel threatened by science or the existence of other religions. I think proselytizing is generally born out of fear and doubt. I get the feeling that the loudest religious people don't QUITE believe their own bullshit and that's why they have to push it on everyone else so loudly because if no one else doubts, it will be easier for them to forget their own doubts.

Sure I get annoyed with pushy religious people but it's they who are full of fear and hate. My irritation is but a response to their sickness.

Edit:
Okay. I admit that these two from that list do routinely annoy me more than all the others combined:


I get angry when believers say at the beginning of an argument that their belief is based on reason and evidence, and at the end of the argument say things like, "It just seems that way to me," or, "I feel it in my heart"... as if that were a clincher. I mean, couldn't they have said that at the beginning of the argument, and not wasted my fucking time? My time is valuable and increasingly limited, and I have better things to do with it than debating with people who pretend to care about evidence and reason but ultimately don't.

Bible_magnifying_glassI'm angry that I have to know more about their fucking religion than the believers do. I get angry when believers say things about the tenets and texts of their religion that are flatly untrue, and I have to correct them on it.

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Date: 2007-10-18 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idragosani.livejournal.com
Yes. See a recent post I made (on coming out day) and mentioned atheism and where some people jumped all over me (and note these folks were not Christians, but pagans). I have been jumped on by these same people before and called a 'militant atheist' because I dared make them question their own beliefs. One guy even dropped me from his friends list over it. Sheesh.

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Date: 2007-10-18 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paka.livejournal.com
I say this a lot, but it bears repeating;

I feel spirituality is personal in the same way as masturbating. I might have this fantastic method for yanking my crank that gets me to the most amazing and wonderful climaxes - but by definition that same method just will not work for 52% of the population, and out of the remaining 48%, there'd be, what, a tiny fraction of them for whom that method would work?, and everyone else would be out of luck.

Describing a single spiritual path and mandating it is like mandating a single way of jerking off.

And, I think I'm gonna save some of the discussion of anger for later.

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Date: 2007-10-18 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ff00ff.livejournal.com
I think to be honest I'd have to admit to some atheist anger myself. Not deep black hatred, but when a theist argues dishonestly, such as claiming he respects facts but ultimately deciding it's what he feels in his heart that counts, hence revealing that the entire argument has been a sham, yeah that makes me angry. When Christians interfere in politics, that makes me angry, a lot of the things she listed make me angry.

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