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pasithea ([personal profile] pasithea) wrote2009-01-06 01:28 pm
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Poor white suburbanite

Several years ago, I bought a collection of studio Ghibli films. There's a few common themes that run through all of them. Mostly about seeing magic and beauty in the natural world, but a sub-theme that's present in nearly all of them is the kindness of strangers. In most of the films, there are multiple strangers who are willing to help out the main characters. Give them a place to stay for the night or a ride to somewhere or help them set up a shop or something. Miyazakisan's worlds are filled with kind and caring people.

In a broader sense, a LOT of stories are filled with those sorts of people. What would have happened to Snow White had the dwarves been less kind? Even in Hunter S. Thompson's books, they're always picking up hitchhikers, letting people crash for the night and such.

I find myself wondering about these people. Are they common? Were they more common at one time? It sure seems like, listening to people talk about the 60s, that there were a lot more people like that around. Even for myself, I can remember in the early 90s, there were still a fair number of Hitchhikers in Santa Cruz area and I'd pick them up and give them lifts sometimes, but I've not seen a hitcher in a long time. They've become much more rare. I help people out when I can, sometimes strangers, but more often friends.

It seems though, that this sort of stuff is a lot more rare than it was a few decades ago. For myself, the one time in my life I was homeless and needed help, I didn't have the greatest experience, and it was with a person I already knew. So what happened to us as a society? Why have we become so cold to others?

My pet theories are cars and television. When not everyone had a car, they were happy to show them off, share some time with a stranger and do a good deed, giving them a lift. But as cars have become more common, why bother? Everyone has one and anyone who doesn't must be some kind of bum, possibly a serial killer or mentally disturbed. And television.. Gotta get home and watch that show about the girl who picks up the hitchhiker who turns out to be a serial killer. That shrill box of vapid creativity suck. Who needs to know their neighbors? You've got all the human interaction you need right there in that glowing magic box.

There are probably other culprits too, but I think these two have the biggest isolating effect on people. Even the internet isn't nearly so bad. Even with WOW or something, you're at least talking to other people, though I confess I find far more value in things like Livejournal and SecondLife. Still. I wanna know. How do we fix all this? We've become a nation of selfish, shrill and paranoid gits. It's very sad. :(

[identity profile] centauress.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what was going through my mind last night in our conversation about 'spot-the-creep'.

[identity profile] glych.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Couch Surfing saved me on more than one occasion.

[identity profile] ff00ff.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I think our cultural expectations of what a stranger is going to do to you have changed since the sixties.

[identity profile] paka.livejournal.com 2009-01-07 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
The behavior was more common. Seriously, pre-industrial cultures get pretty rigorous about hospitality and wandering - you never know who you might be hosting, who they're related to, what they might do if you're inhospitable. People like the Norse or Tlingit developed elaborate systems of contact because folks traveling were a big feature of their world.

I think you're onto something with the car. It works the opposite way, I think. People are so used to that they can climb in the car and go places that they don't consider other people might not have that. Remember all the people after Katrina who were on about, "well, surely all those people in NOLA could've just hopped in cars and sat the storm and reconstruction out in Tennessee or something" - stuff like that? I think it's like your contention, just the cluelessness is less malicious.

But more pernicious thanks to cultural junk. Europeans seem to live in a much smaller world than us - and while there are down sides, some of the upsides include things like TEE, or more of a thriving youth hostel thing, or more public transport regularly available. Us, we have all this big spread out geography which necessitates cars. I don't have a car because it's this wonderful luxury that means I can get to Portland faster than the train. I have a car because it's a necessity for getting to work. And this stuff just culturally builds on itself. We have cars and we're spread out because we've always had cars and been spread out.

Here's another link for you. It's basically about how the architecture and emotional appeal of downtown Ann Arbor are really linked together, caused and sustained both by things being walkable, by the viability of small businesses. I found this while feeling really homesick for the place, so it was fascinating to watch someone actually dissect why this downtown would be so vivid in my memory. I'm going to stop before I send this discussion plunging off into architecture.

[identity profile] dv-girl.livejournal.com 2009-01-07 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
I don't agree that cars are a necessity here. I know it's a sticky topic so I won't dwell on it. Especially since I'm in the position of having a relatively stable job situation, but when I moved last, I specifically looked for a place that was cheap, near bus and train lines, allowed cats, and had washer/dryer hookups. I was riding the train and biking when I worked at Stanford and when I started working in San Francisco, driving would have been a completely horrible solution compared with the train/bicycle combination. Prickvixen also bicycles to work and has no car. So.. It is possible around here but it does require some planning up front and that's not accessible to everyone. Also, as mentioned, having a stable destination helps quite a bit.

[identity profile] paka.livejournal.com 2009-01-07 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
You know... I think cars are vital to a lot of people in a lot of ways, but I also know I have all sorts of issues about isolation and distance and am not the best person to offer an opinion about this stuff.

When I back off from my personal stuff, though, I still definitely feel like there are links between car culture, isolating suburban culture, architectural styles, and business distribution.

[identity profile] ponyguy.livejournal.com 2009-01-07 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Could have something to do with the fact that hitchhiking is illegal in a lot of places in the US, and the police will hassle you for it. The increase in homeless visibility and the prevalence of panhandlers probably has a lot to do with it, too. I don't get a lot of warm fuzzies about the guys who follow me out of a store and hassle me for gas money. Makes me less interested in picking them up off the street (or anyone who looks like they might be). I'm sad about that, because I've picked up some interesting 'hikers in my day, too.